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July 06, 2009

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Liz Windsor

Been there. Done that. Don't miss the place.

Tom

Really? So, it's the number of gay bars that defines the "gayness" of a city? It isn't the fact that Gavin Newsom started marrying gay people because it was the right thing to do? It's not because San Francisco is home to a huge population of gay and lesbian people? It's not because the Bay Area's politics have been so friendly to gay, lesbian, and transgendered people?
I've lived in San Francisco since 1994. I am, in fact, a gay man. I have been to a gay bar about a dozen times since I've lived here--and only with friends... I've NEVER gone alone.
Please stop the inanity! Being gay has so much more than Abercrombie and Fitch, gay bars, and sex. Please stop reinforcing stereotypes.

Homohirsutus

You know TOM....Im really tired of you sanctimonious gay bar bashers. You may not enjoy going to bars, but some people do. Some people also enjoy gardening, photography, and internet porn. None of those are right for everyone. But when you criticize something that other gay people enjoy, you are basically saying you think you are better then them. Well, you arent. You will never be better then me and I will not tolerate your pretentions. I enjoy gay bars and have a good time being there. I am comfortable knowing the people there are gay, and I can relax and not worry about being judged or beat the crap out of by some stupid drunk straight ass. I can dance, flirt, drink, and enjoy myself. If its not what you enjoy, thats fine, but dont you dare pass judgment on me.

Jason

Hell yeah Homo... get it! I couldn't agree more. Gay people for the most part aren't like straight people... and honestly I don't want to be. Regardless of whether most of us fit stereotypes or not... we should have civil rights and we WILL eventually. Trying to be more "straight acting" whether it be in walk, talk or avoiding the gay "scene" is counterproductive. You may want to go back in the closet but I'll pass. One of the great joys of being gay for a lot of us is that we don't get tied down to the same traditional roles as straight people... it's a good thing and makes me glad to be gay. If I want to keep partying occasionally into my 50's... I can... and chances are most of my friends will be right along side me the whole time. Life is meant to be lived and straight people miss out on that by trying to conform to what they're "supposed to be doing". For a lot of us those friends that we go out with ARE our families... and WAY closer and more connected than most "real" families. So stereotype me... I don't care... my life doesn't revolve around trying to avoid your stereotypes. My life is about having fun and making the most of it... and if that is a gay stereotype... so be it.

David

what about trigger? which brings a different feel to the bars in the castro? and sad to say this... but the bars in boystown are kicking SF's ass. If your going to rate a city's gayness by it's bars then actually find the cities that have the best bars.

Bryan

Um guys, this article was about night life. Why don't we all take a chill pill :) I'm not a club goer, either, but if a friend wants to go, I'll go with them. I agree that it would be refreshing to see other interests given a bit more attention, but maybe in another section of gay or out.com ;)

David Q. Cooke

The writing in this article was maybe worthy of a mediocre high-schooler. What (lack of) decision-making led to this drivel being posted for public consumption?

Denis

Most of the opnions here just show that we gay are still not confortable enough about our sexuality and "what is be gay" so bars, dance clubs, and just relax at home are nice depending on your preference.
deep inside most gays still do not accept themselves as a plurality of genrers. all must be accepted and respected.
if we just look at straight mind, they are all different eventhough a generous part of them act similarly. why cant we act similarly without be "taget"?

Carl

I really think San Francisco has much more to offer than gay bars and parties. Maybe we should list the great independent theater groups, film festivals, the broad range of neighborhoods that are also gay friendly outside the Castro district. San Francisco is the most livable city for gays and lesbians in the country. The most important point that hasn't been made clear is we can enjoy the entire city openly gay. We are not trapped in a gay district as in many other cities.

Mark S

I do not go out but am glad there are more options for people to go out to in the Castro and it looks like this article was an update on that and just that. Get your panties out of a bunch and be glad there are more options for people to go out to.

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